<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[Upgrade from a SW8C+]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Hi guys,</p>
<p dir="auto">would it be possible to upgrade my SW8C+ to a SW13C+ just by exchanging the controller box?<br />
And if so, what would it cost?</p>
<p dir="auto">Best regards<br />
Andreas</p>
]]></description><link>https://beta-forums.sim-pli.city/topic/101/upgrade-from-a-sw8c</link><generator>RSS for Node</generator><lastBuildDate>Mon, 25 May 2026 23:02:20 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://beta-forums.sim-pli.city/topic/101.rss" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2023 06:22:23 GMT</pubDate><ttl>60</ttl><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Upgrade from a SW8C+ on Wed, 20 Sep 2023 21:05:37 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/sim-plicity-dev" aria-label="Profile: Sim-plicity-Dev">@<bdi>Sim-plicity-Dev</bdi></a> said in <a href="/post/608">Upgrade from a SW8C+</a>:</p>
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<p dir="auto">For this configuration, you would need to source the 2x LRS-150-15 locally (<a href="https://eu.mouser.com/ProductDetail/MEAN-WELL/LRS-150-15" rel="nofollow ugc">Mouser</a> will deliver for below 40 GBP/46 EUR within the EU) while we supply the Team Wheel LV controller.</p>
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<p dir="auto">Ok, understood. Too bad mouser is b2b only, but I get the Idea.<br />
<img src="/assets/uploads/files/1695242395161-992e5c0b-253d-4170-a1e6-36dce3c311c0-image.png" alt="992e5c0b-253d-4170-a1e6-36dce3c311c0-image.png" class=" img-fluid img-markdown" /></p>
<p dir="auto">To be honest with you: I'm out. I've been very interested at the beginning, but it's been 5 months since you informed me about this controller, and neither the Wiki nor the store page have evolved since in terms of information.<br />
There's no image other than the controller board, no schematic, not even a mockup of the housing, no list of the 100 possible things that might be included or would have to be sourced by myself.<br />
That's too much of a gamble for me. Or may I'll have to accept that I'm not part of the target group.</p>
<p dir="auto">Learning that the C+ line is beyond EOL doesn't give me the greatest confidence that any update would be future proof either, so I decided to call it a day go another upgrade path instead.</p>
<p dir="auto">Which is a bit sad, because I was – <em>and still am</em> – the owner of a nice and well working DD base made by enthusiasts instead of a big industry player, but I guess I've reached a dead end here. (Also, f'in Brexit doesn't make things easier aswell. Which <em>really</em> isn't you fault.)</p>
]]></description><link>https://beta-forums.sim-pli.city/post/609</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://beta-forums.sim-pli.city/post/609</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[[[global:former-user]]]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2023 21:05:37 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Upgrade from a SW8C+ on Wed, 20 Sep 2023 10:39:23 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">@aotto1977<br />
For the Wheel Builder to be globally useful, we've included 60+ PSUs most of which we do not stock (but are generally available) to allow configurations to be tailored to what is locally available and cost-effective.</p>
<p dir="auto">For this configuration, you would need to source the 2x LRS-150-15 locally (<a href="https://eu.mouser.com/ProductDetail/MEAN-WELL/LRS-150-15" rel="nofollow ugc">Mouser</a> will deliver for below 40 GBP/46 EUR within the EU) while we supply the Team Wheel LV controller.</p>
]]></description><link>https://beta-forums.sim-pli.city/post/608</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://beta-forums.sim-pli.city/post/608</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Sim-plicity Dev]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2023 10:39:23 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Upgrade from a SW8C+ on Mon, 18 Sep 2023 13:37:35 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/sim-plicity-dev" aria-label="Profile: Sim-plicity-Dev">@<bdi>Sim-plicity-Dev</bdi></a> said in <a href="/post/604">Upgrade from a SW8C+</a>:</p>
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<p dir="auto">@aotto1977<br />
With all the new integrated controllers the rear encoder housing is replaced with a larger encoder + controller housing and the controller fits within this such that DC power and USB are the only external cable connections.<br />
The controllers are shaped to facilitate this.</p>
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<p dir="auto">Thanks for the additional info. So I'd only need an additional housing for the PSUs, right?<br />
But how can I (pre-) order this exact configuration? The configurator has no order button.<br />
<img src="/assets/uploads/files/1695044069335-6093e5f8-e26b-41be-95ff-fdc25785afc5-image.png" alt="6093e5f8-e26b-41be-95ff-fdc25785afc5-image.png" class=" img-fluid img-markdown" /></p>
]]></description><link>https://beta-forums.sim-pli.city/post/607</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://beta-forums.sim-pli.city/post/607</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[[[global:former-user]]]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2023 13:37:35 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Upgrade from a SW8C+ on Mon, 18 Sep 2023 13:18:23 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">@aotto1977<br />
With all the new integrated controllers the rear encoder housing is replaced with a larger encoder + controller housing and the controller fits within this such that DC power and USB are the only external cable connections.<br />
The controllers are shaped to facilitate this.</p>
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<p dir="auto">Unfortunately, we no longer produce SW13C+ controller boxes as we've shut down those production lines.<br />
Time spent upgrading the SW8C+ controller box can however be optimized by opting for an Air rather than road-based collection &amp; delivery service which would mean if the unit is collected on Monday, it should be back with you by mid-day Friday in SW13C+ spec.<br />
Factor in an additional 40 GBP for the air service upgrade.</p>
]]></description><link>https://beta-forums.sim-pli.city/post/603</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://beta-forums.sim-pli.city/post/603</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Sim-plicity Dev]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2023 13:13:23 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Upgrade from a SW8C+ on Sat, 16 Sep 2023 08:53:59 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/sim-plicity-dev" aria-label="Profile: Sim-plicity-Dev">@<bdi>Sim-plicity-Dev</bdi></a> said in <a href="/post/540">Upgrade from a SW8C+</a>:</p>
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<p dir="auto">@aotto1977</p>
<p dir="auto">Yes that is possible. Cost will be circa 200 GBP including pickup &amp; return.</p>
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<p dir="auto">Does that mean I would have to send my SW8C+ controller box in? Isn't it possible to just purchase the SW13C+ controller box?<br />
I don't really like the idea of having no working wheelbase for a longer time period to be honest. <img src="https://beta-forums.sim-pli.city/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f62c.png?v=25c5d59099a" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--grimacing" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":grimacing:" alt="😬" /></p>
]]></description><link>https://beta-forums.sim-pli.city/post/602</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://beta-forums.sim-pli.city/post/602</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[[[global:former-user]]]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 16 Sep 2023 08:53:59 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Upgrade from a SW8C+ on Sat, 15 Apr 2023 11:03:15 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/sim-plicity-dev" aria-label="Profile: Sim-plicity-Dev">@<bdi>Sim-plicity-Dev</bdi></a> said in <a href="/post/542">Upgrade from a SW8C+</a>:</p>
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<p dir="auto">This is an ever-evolving document so please highlight areas/topics you    need further detail on.</p>
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<p dir="auto">While I'm quite good at electronics stuff und experienced in soldering and such, (built my own USB rim etc.) I have no experience in assembling a controller, so I'd need a full data sheet in terms of connections and such.<br />
Plus I need to end up with pin compatible connections to the current SW8C+ controller, so I can use the existing wiring harness.</p>
<p dir="auto">But as the document is, as you stated, ever-evolving, I'll just keep an eye on that.</p>
<p dir="auto">But maybe you can already answer this: The wiki says "integrated variant" and the shape is quite remarkable – is this meant to be installed directly into the encoder housing?</p>
<p dir="auto">Have a nice weekend!</p>
<p dir="auto">Andreas</p>
]]></description><link>https://beta-forums.sim-pli.city/post/543</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://beta-forums.sim-pli.city/post/543</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[[[global:former-user]]]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 15 Apr 2023 11:03:15 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Upgrade from a SW8C+ on Sat, 15 Apr 2023 10:08:23 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">@aotto1977</p>
<p dir="auto">All our controllers (old &amp; new) allow for 2 identical PSUs to be aggregated, doubling the input power.<br />
This will typically increase the motor's output torque subject to various other limiting factors (all of which are modelled in the Wheel Builder app).</p>
<p dir="auto">Using 2 lower power PSUs vs a single high power PSU can have  packaging &amp; noise benefits.<br />
As an example the SW20 V3 uses 2 air-cooled PSUs  while the SW20 Esport uses a single fan-cooled PSU.<br />
The SW20 V3 controller is 11% smaller due to the space saving from the PSU sandwich.<br />
The SW20 Esport's PSU would be intrusively loud if we allowed the controller case temperature to rise above 40 degrees Centigrade.<br />
We avoid this because of the external low noise fan in all the control unit cases.</p>
<p dir="auto">Each configuration above links to the wiki page of the controller<br />
<img src="/assets/uploads/files/1681552515469-59f2dc57-964d-4ce1-917e-1ca639ea9159-image.png" alt="59f2dc57-964d-4ce1-917e-1ca639ea9159-image.png" class=" img-fluid img-markdown" /><br />
This is an ever-evolving document so please highlight areas/topics you    need further detail on.</p>
]]></description><link>https://beta-forums.sim-pli.city/post/542</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://beta-forums.sim-pli.city/post/542</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Sim-plicity Dev]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 15 Apr 2023 10:08:23 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Upgrade from a SW8C+ on Fri, 14 Apr 2023 09:11:49 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/sim-plicity-dev" aria-label="Profile: Sim-plicity-Dev">@<bdi>Sim-plicity-Dev</bdi></a> oooooh, the DIY Option sounds very promising, thanks for the hint!</p>
<p dir="auto">What exactly do I need the second power supply for? Can we expect more documentation for the controller in the future, or is there already anything available?</p>
]]></description><link>https://beta-forums.sim-pli.city/post/541</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://beta-forums.sim-pli.city/post/541</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[[[global:former-user]]]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 14 Apr 2023 09:11:49 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Upgrade from a SW8C+ on Fri, 14 Apr 2023 07:16:24 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">@aotto1977</p>
<p dir="auto">Yes that is possible. Cost will be circa 200 GBP including pickup &amp; return.</p>
<p dir="auto">If you are up to a little DIY and can wait till June, a 15Nm - 18Nm wheelbase can be achieved with a <a href="https://sim-pli.city/products/team-wheel-lv-diy-direct-drive-wheel-controller" rel="nofollow ugc">Team Wheel LV Controller</a></p>
<p dir="auto"><a href="https://apps.sim-pli.city/wheel-builder/boards/team-wheel-lv/110st-m06030-(8m-cpr-absolute-encoder)/lrs-150-15" rel="nofollow ugc">Configuration 1</a> - tick the "Second Power Supply required?" checkbox<br />
<a href="https://apps.sim-pli.city/wheel-builder/boards/team-wheel-lv/110st-m06030-(8m-cpr-absolute-encoder)/epp-300-15" rel="nofollow ugc">Configuration 2</a><br />
<a href="https://apps.sim-pli.city/wheel-builder/boards/team-wheel-lv/110st-m06030-(8m-cpr-absolute-encoder)/lrs-350-15" rel="nofollow ugc">Configuration 3</a></p>
<p dir="auto">Remove 180 GBP from each of those estimates as you already have the motor.</p>
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